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Proposition: Jane Hahn (Leaders Academy) vs. Opposition: Ava Angeles (Outschool Online - Intermediate)

Judge: David Kane (Binghamton University)

Resolution: Resolved: The United Nation should require countries to uniformly enact substantial criminal justice reform in one or more of the following: forensic science, policing, sentencing.

  • Jane Hahn
    Jane Hahn
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    Ava Angeles
    Ava Angeles
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    Posted at July 20, 2020 08:21:45AM EST by Jane Hahn

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    http://www.transformjustice.org.uk/does-the-public-understand-and-agree-with-criminal-sentences/
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52981634
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2009/08/04/india-overhaul-abusive-failing-police-system
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2009/08/04/india-overhaul-abusive-failing-police-system
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/opinion/the-police-cant-solve-the-problem-they-are-the-problem.html
    https://www.penalreform.org/issues/prison-conditions/key-facts/overcrowding/
    https://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/state-prison-capacity-overcrowding-data.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/02/autopsies-police-killings-medical-misleading?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Slack

    Posted at July 21, 2020 06:34:16PM EST by Ava Angeles

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    States passing new laws: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/states-with-the-most-notable-criminal-justice-reform-laws-of-2019?slide=3

    United Nations functions and powers: https://www.un.org/securitycouncil/content/functions-and-powers

    Forensic science is putting innocent people in jail: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/bad-science-puts-innocent-people-in-jail--and-keeps-them-there/2018/03/20/f1fffd08-263e-11e8-b79d-f3d931db7f68_story.html

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a4535/4325774/

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-humes-forensic-evidence-20190113-story.html

    Posted at July 22, 2020 10:11:46AM EST by Jane Hahn

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    Posted at July 23, 2020 09:59:47PM EST by Ava Angeles

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    Flaws in forensic science: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20150512-can-we-trust-forensic-science

    https://archive.thinkprogress.org/forensic-evidence-isnt-as-reliable-as-you-might-think-e0aa72ef4581/

    Posted at July 24, 2020 09:51:01AM EST by Jane Hahn

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    Submitted at July 24, 2020 10:20:56PM EST by David Kane

    Category Jane Hahn Ava Angeles
    Use of evidence: 3 3
    Delivery skill: 3.5 3
    Coherence of arguments: 3 2
    Responsiveness to opponent: 3.5 3
    Identification of key points: 3.5 3
    Comments: Your opponent did use all of the time available, which left you with some extra time. You almost sounded bored repeating your argument about the UN being an appropriate institution. You can refer back and extend your arguments without repeating them verbatim. Try to find different ways of saying the same thing. It will be more interesting for you as a speaker and the audience as a listener. Use your time. You had plenty of time, especially in your first speech that you did not use. Make more and stronger arguments to that your opponent has to spend more time in response.

    Try to keep the big picture in mind and spend your time accordingly. You spent a lot of time in your rebuttal talking about the problems in forensics science, but very little time arguing about why it is an overstep of UN authority. You said in your constructive speech that reforms were needed, so why spend your time arguing against these specific reforms?

    You had a fine argument about developing countries having more important priorities, but you didn't bring that up until your rebuttal. You had plenty of time to have brought that up in your constructive speech.

    The decision is for the Proposition: Jane Hahn

    Reason for Decision:

    Thank you for the debate.

    The decision goes to the proposition.

    On the thread about the UN being an appropriate actor, the opposition started an argument about it being outside of their mandate, but then dropped that argument after a question was raised about that evidence. The opposition did not follow through, and so the proposition wins that point.

    The opposition seemed conflicted between suggesting reform was needed, and then getting wrapped up in debating the needs of various reforms.

    The opposition raised a later argument about developing countries having other priorities, but the opposition was able to point to existing UN programs that already addressed those priorities.


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