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Binghamton Speech & Debate

Proposition: Katherine Ma (Clague Middle School) vs. Opposition: Julianne Barteck (Homeschooled)

Judge: Arturo Feliz (Colegio Bilingüe New Horizons)

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  • Katherine Ma
    Katherine Ma
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    Julianne Barteck
    Julianne Barteck
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    Posted at May 25, 2020 08:51:12PM EST by Katherine Ma

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    New American Economy. “From Struggle to Resilience: The Economic Impact of Refugees in America.”
    The 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees

    Posted at May 27, 2020 12:10:42AM EST by Julianne Barteck

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    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216

    https://www.fairus.org/issue/legal-immigration/fiscal-cost-resettling-refugees-united-states

    https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/4/10/15226110/vetting-refugees-terrorism-security-borders

    http://www.patriotheadquarters.com/should-all-refugees-be-allowed-into-the-country-civil/

    https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/354225-america-shouldnt-play-refugee-roulette-by-taking-in-thousands-of-settlers?fbclid=IwAR0oikqQusgz1WbsckI-wR-ZtGILpjsP20QPE3RkTvFzDmsBaFcR6LRre2Y

    https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/2018-06/BG3314.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1K1SuU0NXh--4Cn5nDV8xDbGGYGwC40nlrm07s5hDisP8QchzVkENMaPg

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51551701

    Posted at May 27, 2020 07:01:31PM EST by Katherine Ma

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    Kathleen Newland, October 2015, Migration Policy
    Senior Fellow Vanda Felbab-Brown, “The Wall"

    Posted at May 29, 2020 04:38:39PM EST by Joe Leeson-Schatz

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    https://www.newsweek.com/how-isis-smuggles-terrorists-among-syrian-refugees-453039

    https://cis.org/Memorandum/Jobs-Americans-Wont-Do-Detailed-Look-Immigrant-Employment-Occupation

    https://sivers.org/morepay

    https://www.unrefugees.org/refugee-facts/statistics/

    Posted at May 29, 2020 10:19:16PM EST by Katherine Ma

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    Brennan Hoben, Thursday, August 24, 2017: Do immigrants “steal” jobs from American workers? -https://www.brookings.edu/blog/brookings-now/2017/08/24/do-immigrants-steal-jobs-from-american-workers/

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    Submitted at May 30, 2020 10:08:40AM EST by Arturo Feliz

    Category Katherine Ma Julianne Barteck
    Use of evidence: 2.5 2.7
    Delivery skill: 3 3
    Coherence of arguments: 3 2.7
    Responsiveness to opponent: 3 3
    Identification of key points: 3 3
    Comments: Katherine You have good delivery skills and clear speech and I like that.

    Your case I summarize as, lives, economy, and reputation.

    I think you do a good job defending terrorism and pointing out the low numbers.

    I feel like your closing is a bit weak, and risky. You're closing in what sounds like a rebuttal, rather than your case and how you outweigh.
    Julianne You're doing a good job at delivery, and making your case.

    In your constructive I ID your main arguments as terrorism, wage impacts, H1B visa abuse, and you sort of start refuting repetitional advantages.

    I see you later kept terrorism (I assume you dropped the other arguments) and bring in a few new ones in rebuttal.

    There's one problem about bringing arguments so late in the game: It doesn't allow your opponent to properly respond to them.

    Your argument on the paradox to the Nation-State of admitting refugees without condition is one of the most interesting I've heard, but so late in the game does not allow you to develop it.

    Usually a claim about cards or citations should be made earlier. Even if made, I'm not 100% sure I'd give the round just based on that.

    You vetting argument towards the end is possibly the best strategic argument and possibly a short-circuiting one if you're not careful. But again, too late into the game.

    I feel, these arguments, made in your constructive, would have forced your opponent to defend and tilt the case towards your world, instead of falling on your opponent's world.

    The terrorist argument I feel lacks impact. The numbers are just too low.

    I'm not buying the resident voting argument. Generally speaking, only citizens have access to voting.

    I can't buy your defense on reputation. I don't think I understand it. A nation losing reputation for helping others does not sound typical.

    I think you have a lot of good ideas. If you organize more your case you can prevail.

    The decision is for the Proposition: Katherine Ma

    Reason for Decision:

    RFD In the end I feel it comes down to the economy and terrorism. On these arguments I feel proposition gets the advantage.


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