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Proposition: Emme Davis (Waterman Elementary School) vs. Opposition: Xavier Edmead (Outschool Online - Intermediate)

Judge: Frank Irizarry (Suffolk University)

Resolution: Finals Week: Kids should get to set their own bedtimes.

  • Emme Davis
    Emme Davis
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    Xavier Edmead
    Xavier Edmead
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    Posted at May 11, 2020 02:32:38PM EST by Emme Davis

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    Clifton Parker, March 10, 2014
    (Stanford University Website, "Stanford research shows pitfalls of homework", https://news.stanford.edu/pr/2014/pr-too-much-homework-031014.html)


    Simon Moya-Smith, Sept. 6, 2013
    (NBC News, "Survey: 42 percent of Harvard's incoming freshman class cheated on homework", https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/survey-42-percent-harvards-incoming-freshman-class-cheated-homework-flna8C11095144)

    Mississippi College, November 01, 2018
    ("Homework May Not Be Good for Elementary School Kids", https://online.mc.edu/articles/education/homework-elementary-school-kids.aspx)


    Will Richardson, 2020
    (Co-founder of Modernlearners.com and Change School, Modernlearners.com, "Homework is a Social Justice Issue", https://modernlearners.com/homework-is-a-social-justice-issue/)

    Posted at May 13, 2020 04:57:49AM EST by Xavier Edmead

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    Is homework a good idea or not? https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/38383428

    Homework ban. https://www.abc.net.au/btn/classroom/homework-ban/10488632

    Posted at May 14, 2020 06:56:01AM EST by Joe Leeson-Schatz

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    Clifton Parker, March 10, 2014
    (Stanford University Website, "Stanford research shows pitfalls of homework", https://news.stanford.edu/pr/2014/pr-too-much-homework-031014.html)


    Simon Moya-Smith, Sept. 6, 2013
    (NBC News, "Survey: 42 percent of Harvard's incoming freshman class cheated on homework", https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/survey-42-percent-harvards-incoming-freshman-class-cheated-homework-flna8C11095144)

    Mississippi College, November 01, 2018
    ("Homework May Not Be Good for Elementary School Kids", https://online.mc.edu/articles/education/homework-elementary-school-kids.aspx)


    Will Richardson, 2020
    (Co-founder of Modernlearners.com and Change School, Modernlearners.com, "Homework is a Social Justice Issue", https://modernlearners.com/homework-is-a-social-justice-issue/)

    Posted at May 15, 2020 04:33:21AM EST by Xavier Edmead

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    Homework ban. https://www.abc.net.au/btn/classroom/homework-ban/10488632

    ‘Lazy’ parents don’t do homework with their children but those who do foster a love of learning
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7358362/homework-works-parents-help/

    Education is the key to escaping a life of poverty and poor health https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/449974-education-is-the-key-to-escaping-a-life-of-poverty-and-poor-health

    How does education affect poverty? It can help end it.
    https://www.concernusa.org/story/how-education-affects-poverty/

    Posted at May 15, 2020 04:41:51PM EST by Emme Davis

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    Clifton Parker, March 10, 2014
    (Stanford University Website, "Stanford research shows pitfalls of homework", https://news.stanford.edu/pr/2014/pr-too-much-homework-031014.html)


    Simon Moya-Smith, Sept. 6, 2013
    (NBC News, "Survey: 42 percent of Harvard's incoming freshman class cheated on homework", https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/survey-42-percent-harvards-incoming-freshman-class-cheated-homework-flna8C11095144)

    Mississippi College, November 01, 2018
    ("Homework May Not Be Good for Elementary School Kids", https://online.mc.edu/articles/education/homework-elementary-school-kids.aspx)


    Will Richardson, 2020
    (Co-founder of Modernlearners.com and Change School, Modernlearners.com, "Homework is a Social Justice Issue", https://modernlearners.com/homework-is-a-social-justice-issue/)

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    This match has been completed. Show the Decision.

    Submitted at May 16, 2020 12:43:49PM EST by Frank Irizarry

    Category Emme Davis Xavier Edmead
    Use of evidence: 6 5.8
    Delivery skill: 6 6
    Coherence of arguments: 6 5.6
    Responsiveness to opponent: 6 5.3
    Identification of key points: 6 5.7
    Comments: This was an excellent job Emme! I was very impressed by what you did. Your organization of your arguments as well as how you develop your arguments was far beyond what I would have expected from this debate.

    You cite great evidence and one of the things you do better than I've seen from high school and college novice debaters is you EXPLAIN your evidence. Very often, debaters will read and cite a piece of evidence but they don't explain it or use that piece of evidence in the context of the debate. You do it as well as I've seen from a beginner debater twice your age.

    Your delivery was excellent. You were very quick, which you need to be in a timed debate, but you were also very clear. Quick is good, but clear is better.

    Your proposition rebuttal was excellent. You didn't waste any time getting right into responding to your opponent. You were specific and you were organized.

    I really liked how in your Proposition Closing that you immediately began with your Social Justice argument. A good debater should always begin with their strongest argument and you figured out that was your best argument.
    You did a great job Xavier! Your poise and your delivery was so polished for a young debater. I was a college debate coach for 16 years and I had beginner college age students that didn't have your skill in delivery.

    I like your use of evidence. I think you could probably explain the key points of the evidence a bit more in a few spots to make the distinctions with the proposition arguments but overall, you did really well.

    Your arguments were coherent and were very future focused which I think you need to do on the Opposition with this topic.

    While I think it would have benefited you to be more responsive to the specific arguments of your opponent in your Opposition Constructive (I know you had internet connection problems), you do a nice job in the opposition rebuttal answering those points.

    The decision is for the Proposition: Emme Davis

    Reason for Decision:

    Let me start by congratulating both of you. You both did a great job Emme and Xavier. I judged three rounds this week and this was the best debate I saw and the two of you were the two best debaters I saw.

    Emme, you began the debate with a strong Proposition Constructive. You do a great job of laying out your arguments, explaining your arguments and introducing evidence for those arguments. Often, the arguments are only as strong as the quality of evidence we use to support them and your studies from Harvard, Temple and Stanford are excellent. I also really liked your Social Justice argument that you made at the end of your Proposition Constructive. I thought it added to the diversity of your arguments well.

    I thought your Opposition Constructive was good Xavier but would have been even better if you had some more direct refutation of Emme's specific arguments. I think you make the types of arguments that you would need to be competitive with this side of this topic and that is future oriented arguments. That being said, I think in order to be able to win the future oriented arguments like High School and College success, you need to win some of the short term arguments that the Proposition side is going to have to make.

    Your Proposition Rebuttal was the best speech in the debate and probably the single best speech I've seen in three debates this week Emme. Your ability to directly answer your opponents specific arguments by making reference to arguments you made in your first speech in truly astounding. Like I said to you in my comments to you above, this is a skill that normally takes a lot of work to develop in college age novice debaters twice your age. Some debaters see the big picture of a round and some see the individual arguments. You see both and that was demonstrated in this debate.

    I also liked your Opposition Rebuttal Xavier. Considering you didn't really respond to Emme's specific arguments until now, you did a solid job of answering. I thought your arguments about learning being more than just grades and that kids cheat in other areas were a great effort.

    Ultimately, I think Emme is just ahead on a few key arguments in the debate. While I think Xavier did have some evidence, Emme argues that it was a bit more opinion than proof and I would agree with her. I buy the argument on Social Justice. Xavier says that everything is a bit more difficult for the poor (in debate we call that a "uniqueness" argument) but that's not really a reason to not reject what Emme says is a serious issue and a serious impediment to Social Justice.

    I also think the Stanford evidence on quality of family time for students and teachers is important. While you might like homework Xavier, and I don't doubt that, for many students and parents it is a struggle.

    The same is true with the cheating argument. Emme cites research that says students cheat on homework and Xavier says students cheat everywhere but I think the context of the argument that Emme makes is that students cheating on homework means they don't really see the long term benefits of homework (high school and college success) which you need to win Xavier to win the debate.

    Once again, this was an EXCELLENT debate. If the two of you stick with this I think you will both be excellent debaters in high school and college if you want. Good luck in your next debate!


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