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Proposition: Cooper Dean (Wood River High School) vs. Opposition: Ahmad Amireh (Liberty High School)

Judge: Min Seob Lee (Kyunghee University)

Resolution: This house believes that prisons should be abolished

  • Cooper Dean
    Cooper Dean
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    Ahmad Amireh
    Ahmad Amireh
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    Posted at April 20, 2015 09:05:55PM EST by Cooper Dean

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    "Prison Abolition & Alternatives." Prison Abolition & Alternatives. PrisonJustice.CA, 2008. Web. 13 Apr. 2015. <http://www.vcn.bc.ca/august10/politics/abolition_alternatives.html>.
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    "Prison Abolition & Alternatives." Prison Abolition & Alternatives. PrisonJustice.CA, 2008. Web. 13 Apr. 2015. <http://www.vcn.bc.ca/august10/politics/abolition_alternatives.html>.

    United Nations. Alternatives to Imprisonment. Suva, Fiji: Government Printer, 1983. Criminal Justice Handbook Ser. 2007. Web. 13 Apr. 2015. http://www.unodc.org/pdf/criminal_justice/Handbook_of_Basic_Principles_and_Promising_Practices_on_Alternatives_to_Imprisonment.pdf

    Families Against Mandatory Minimums. "Alternatives to Incarceration in a Nutshell." ALTERNATIVES TO INCARCERATION IN A NUTSHELL (n.d.): n. pag. FAMM, 2014. Web. 13 Apr. 2015. <http://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/FS-Alternatives-in-a-Nutshell-7.8.pdf>.
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    Posted at April 22, 2015 12:23:27AM EST by Ahmad Amireh

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    http://www.antoniocasella.eu/nume/Miller_2010.pdf (David Miller, search In 2005, 10%)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/09/20/prisons-in-these-17-states-are-filled-over-capacity/ (The Washington Post, search That problem)

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/1400-lifers-released-from-california-prisons-in-last-3-years/ (CBS News)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/25/california-private-prison_n_4157641.html (Huffington Post, search in 2011)

    Posted at April 22, 2015 11:36:10PM EST by Cooper Dean

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    Posted at April 24, 2015 12:33:15AM EST by Ahmad Amireh

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    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/jul/27/prisonsandprobation.youthjustice

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/26/prison-sweden-not-punishment-nils-oberg

    Posted at April 25, 2015 02:34:12PM EST by Joe Leeson-Schatz

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    Submitted at April 25, 2015 09:57:25PM EST by Min Seob Lee

    Category Cooper Dean Ahmad Amireh
    Use of evidence: 3.8 3.7
    Delivery skill: 3.8 3.8
    Coherence of arguments: 3.7 3.9
    Responsiveness to opponent: 3.6 4
    Identification of key points: 4.2 4.4
    Comments: There are several things what you can be improved.

    1st, please be on time for uploading video. Although I decided this debate based on the contents from both side, I should also care fairness for time management from both side.

    2nd, you went to right direction and your example was good. But please provide me links and relevance. Just listing and repeating a number of examples cannot say that why these examples should be justified. Debate is the game about choosing most relevant example and explaining why your examples are most important and relevant.

    There are several things what you can be improved.

    1st, providing more direct rebuttal for what the opponent said. For example, in Proposition constructive speech, he said that the bad impact to children of prisoners, but you didn't tackle down. Plus, I didn't quite get how your reformation of prison can fix the problem of abusing prisoners in prison now.

    2nd, please provide more detailed comparison between status quo when prisons exist and possible future when prisons are abolished. In this debate, your specific burden of proof was why prison system is most suitable to fulfill the very purpose of criminal justice system. But for this issue, I thought there are more rooms to be improved. So I thought your own constructive material was a little bit weak.

    The decision is for the Opposition: Ahmad Amireh

    Reason for Decision:

    Congratulations on coming round 2 after you won in the first round. I vote for opposition because of below reasons.

    1st, I think the proposition's definition of 'worldwide', 'abolish movement of prison' was fair. But this definition made strategical disadvantage to the proposition side because 1st, you have so many examples to prove their justification and find their relevance in the limited time, 2nd, your burden of proof was doubled because you should prove not only why the number of the prison should be reduced in some level but also why still prison system should be used in some level. In comparison, just cutting the link and relevance by rebuttal from opposition and narrow down USA case made more specific and relevant case. Although I know opposition's on constructive material was a little bit weak, but proposition rebuttal wasn't strong enough to highlight this point.

    2nd, proposition provide numerous alternatives of prison system like the case in Switzerland, conditional discharge, parole, etc. But opposition's rebuttal was stronger in the case of Switzerland compared to the supporting material from proposition(proposition speaker did just repeat the example as rebuttal for opposition's attack). Moreover, as the opposition pointed out, I didn't get the proposition's other alternatives was exclusive or better than prison system.

    3rd, proposition speaker started this debate by emphasizing the human right violation issue in prison which opposition speaker didn't fairly tackle down. But when the debate went on, making lower criminal rate became main issue and above issue from proposition was sidelined. Because of this, proposition speaker harder to find the bases for maximize impact of his contents.

    Thank you very much for reading this decision. If you have any further questions, send message to me. I hope winning speaker do well in next debate and runner-up speaker do well in next tournament.


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    Thank you Cooper for the best round I have had this tournament, you are an amazing debater. Judge, your comments are very detailed and I thank you for your incredibly helpful insight. I will definitely adjust my constructive for my next round - Ahmad Amireh on April 25, 2015 at 10:04PM EST

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