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Proposition: Andrew Seo (NEI Education) vs. Opposition: Corey Mossberg (Binghamton University)

Judge: Guy Risko (Bard High School Early College)

Resolution: This house believes that prisons should be abolished

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    Andrew Seo
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    Posted at April 14, 2015 10:53:07AM EST by Joe Leeson-Schatz

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    Posted at April 14, 2015 05:51:23PM EST by Corey Mossberg

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    Gerhard Peschers. and Anna Patterson. "Books Open Worlds for People Behind Bars: Library Services in Prison as Exemplified by the Mnster Prison Library, Germany's "Library of the Year 2007"." Library Trends 59.3 (2011): 520-543. Project MUSE. Web. 14 Apr. 2015. https://muse.jhu.edu/

    http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21583701-america-waking-up-cost-mass-incarceration-unlikely-alliance-left-and.

    Educated Prisoners Are Less Likely to Return to PrisonJames S. VaccaJournal of Correctional Education Vol. 55, No. 4 (December 2004) , pp. 297-305 Published by: Correctional Education Association Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/23292095

    Posted at April 16, 2015 08:52:18AM EST by Joe Leeson-Schatz

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    Posted at April 16, 2015 10:43:00PM EST by Corey Mossberg

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    Posted at April 18, 2015 12:05:30AM EST by Andrew Seo

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    Submitted at April 19, 2015 07:52:45AM EST by Guy Risko

    Category Andrew Seo Corey Mossberg
    Use of evidence: 2.8 3.3
    Delivery skill: 3.6 3.7
    Coherence of arguments: 3 3
    Responsiveness to opponent: 3.4 2.1
    Identification of key points: 3.5 2.6
    Comments: --If you want to make the argument that the speech is too long, you need to spend time telling me why to evaluate it
    -- You need to have more organization
    -- Your good arguments come far too late in the debate.
    -- "There's no evidence" is an argument you have to build from-- its not enough to just say "The judge shouldn't evaluate it". Find counter evidence OR make a counter argument.
    -- Your sarcastic rhetorical questions make you look worse: calling your opponent out regarding citations (for example) without engaging the question makes you look hypocritical at best, lazy at worst.
    -- Going for "my opponent doesn't do X" isn't a winning strategy: you need to explain why your arguments are preferable. You spend 0 time in your last speech talking about reform (outside of talking about your opponents lack of evidence), and fail to rebut any of his arguments.

    The decision is for the Proposition: Andrew Seo

    Reason for Decision:

    This debate is VERY difficult to decide because of two issues:
    1. The question of time isn't super clear. I don't think the Prop makes any real arguments about the abuse (15 seconds is fairly substantial in terms of fairness), but the opp doesn't make any claim about fairness in response.
    2. There's very little arguments about the prison system, per se. There's a lot about capitalism, Obama,the universal declaration of human rights and "citations"... but not a lot about reform, abolition (especially by the end). If this debate was about classism, we might have something interesting.

    The last pop speech says "Don'ts make any points about why prisons should be abolished, and should be dropped from the debate unless he provides evidence for all to the claims". So, I follow you up to a point (that if he provides no evidence for the abolition of prisons, he should lose). HOWEVER, he does say that prison abolition will give money to the reform programs that the opp wants, and he does give some evidence for it. While I think the best arguments of the prop come very late, following the final opposition speech seems like I should vote for the Proposition.


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