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Binghamton Speech & Debate

Proposition: Stella Chung (NEI Education) vs. Opposition: Daniel Grafman (Unaffiliated)

Judge: Josh Cangelosi (San Diego Christian College)

Resolution: Resolved: This house believes that being a vegetarian is a better ethical choice than meat eating.

  • Stella Chung
    Stella Chung
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    Daniel Grafman
    Daniel Grafman
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    Posted at October 6, 2014 09:40:22PM EST by Stella Chung

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    Solotaroff, Paul 12/10/2013 "In the Belly of the Beast." Rolling Stone Magazine http://feature.rollingstone.com/feature/belly-beast-meat-factory-farms-animal-activists

    Velez-Mitchell, Jane 03/15/2014 "Factory Meat, Cruel and Bad for Us." CNN. Cable News Network http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/14/opinion/velez-mitchell-animal-cruelty/

    Haynes, Lacey 07/30/2013 "Why the Hell Are You Still Eating Animals?" The Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lacey-haynes/animal-cruelty-eating-meat_b_3673816.html

    07/15/2014 "Vegetarian ProCon.org." ProConorg Headlines http://vegetarian.procon.org/

    Posted at October 7, 2014 11:18:52PM EST by Daniel Grafman

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    None available for this speech.

    Posted at October 8, 2014 09:14:09PM EST by Stella Chung

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    American Dietetic Association, "Position of the American Dietetic Association: Vegetarian Diets," Journal of the American Dietetic Association, May 27, 2009

    Solotaroff, Paul 12/10/2013 "In the Belly of the Beast." Rolling Stone Magazine http://feature.rollingstone.com/feature/belly-beast-meat-factory-farms-animal-activists

    Velez-Mitchell, Jane 03/15/2014 "Factory Meat, Cruel and Bad for Us." CNN. Cable News Network http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/14/opinion/velez-mitchell-animal-cruelty/

    Haynes, Lacey 07/30/2013 "Why the Hell Are You Still Eating Animals?" The Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lacey-haynes/animal-cruelty-eating-meat_b_3673816.html

    07/15/2014 "Vegetarian ProCon.org." ProConorg Headlines http://vegetarian.procon.org/

    Vernon R. Young and Peter L. Pellett, "Plant Proteins in Relation to Human Protein and Amino Acid Nutrition," American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1994

    Posted at October 9, 2014 03:45:09PM EST by Daniel Grafman

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    http://www.peta.org/living/beauty/animal-ingredients-list/

    Posted at October 10, 2014 09:03:34PM EST by Stella Chung

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    American Dietetic Association, "Position of the American Dietetic Association: Vegetarian Diets," Journal of the American Dietetic Association, May 27, 2009

    Solotaroff, Paul 12/10/2013 "In the Belly of the Beast." Rolling Stone Magazine http://feature.rollingstone.com/feature/belly-beast-meat-factory-farms-animal-activists

    Velez-Mitchell, Jane 03/15/2014 "Factory Meat, Cruel and Bad for Us." CNN. Cable News Network http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/14/opinion/velez-mitchell-animal-cruelty/

    Haynes, Lacey 07/30/2013 "Why the Hell Are You Still Eating Animals?" The Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lacey-haynes/animal-cruelty-eating-meat_b_3673816.html

    07/15/2014 "Vegetarian ProCon.org." ProConorg Headlines http://vegetarian.procon.org/

    Vernon R. Young and Peter L. Pellett, "Plant Proteins in Relation to Human Protein and Amino Acid Nutrition," American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 1994

    Status

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    Submitted at October 12, 2014 03:38:36PM EST by Josh Cangelosi

    Category Stella Chung Daniel Grafman
    Use of evidence: 4 5
    Delivery skill: 5.5 5
    Coherence of arguments: 5.5 4
    Responsiveness to opponent: 6 4
    Identification of key points: 6 4
    Comments: Great speaking and great clash. But you do want to verbally cite your sources as well so we know which bit of info comes from which source. In an essay, you would not just have the works cited. You would also have the in-text citations. The same goes for speech. Good speaking. Just watch out for definitions, and do more work weighing impacts.

    The decision is for the Proposition: Stella Chung

    Reason for Decision:

    When Opp accepts Props definition of ethical as in the best interest of animals and humans, I have to weigh all the impacts to animals and humans in the round. And millions of animal deaths on factory farms (which make up the majority of the industry) are not in the interest of animals, and these deaths outweigh all other impacts in the round quantitatively. Prop answers family farms argument by saying that family farms will still kill the animals (which is still not in their interest) and the hunting argument by saying that hunting still kills the animals.

    I dont think Prop does enough to show that meat eating actually causes obesity, but she does enough to show that vegetarianism is not unhealthy. So the health argument is a bit of a wash. Neither side has clearly shown that vegetarianism either is or is not in the best interest of human health.

    Opp drops the environment argument. But that argument was not very well supported at the outset with evidence, nor impacted out very much, so it doesnt factor into the impact analysis. In other words, Prop, dont just tell me that meat eating causes climate change or deforestation, tell me why climate change and deforestation are bad. You need to impact those arguments out for animals and humans.

    Prop does enough to mitigate and outweigh Opps off-case positions, such as the jobs argument. And even if some jobs are lost in the short term, the impact of millions of animals dying outweighs. And not enough work was done to explain why I should weigh the impacts to humans before the impacts to animals. So with the difference of millions upon millions of animal lives lost and potentially a few jobs lost in the short term, I still think the impacts to animals outweigh.


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