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Proposition: Dhruv Sehgal (Binghamton University) vs. Opposition: Jacob Landsberg (University of Washington Bothell)

Judge: Susan Worst (Wood River High School)

Resolution: RESOLVED: The United States Federal Government should ban all testing that requires the use of animals.

  • Dhruv Sehgal
    Dhruv Sehgal
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    Jacob Landsberg
    Jacob Landsberg
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    Posted at N/A by Dhruv Sehgal

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    Posted at N/A by Jacob Landsberg

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    Just an FYI: YouTube screwed up the thumbnail on it so there isn't one but the video is correct and works.

    Framework
    Meszaros 89 (Istvan, likes Marx not Adam Smith. The Power of Ideology, p 232-234 GAL)

    Solvency
    Herod 2004
    (James, Getting Free, http://site.www.umb.edu/faculty/salzman_g/Strate/GetFre/06.htm)

    Holloway 05 (John, 8-16, Ph.D Political Science-University of Edinburgh , Can We Change The World Without Taking Power?, http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/5616)

    Kovel 2 Professor of Social Studies at Bard (Joel, The Enemy of Nature, p224)

    Environment
    Foster 2005 (John Bellamy, Monthly Review, March, Vol. 56, Iss. 10, The End of Rational Capitalism)

    War
    Herod 7 (James, Columbia U graduate and political activist, Getting Free Pg. 62-63 JF)

    Foster 8 (John Bellamy, prof of sociology @ U of Oregon, Peak Oil and Energy Imperialism Monthly Review Vol. 60.3 July-August JF)


    VTL
    Dillon 1999 [Michael, Another Justice, Political Theory 27:2]

    Posted at N/A by Dhruv Sehgal

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    Rejecting capitalism will spark transition wars, re-entrenching cycles of exploitation
    Gubrud 1997 [Mark Avrum (Center for Superconductivity Research); Nanotechnology and International Security; Foresight Nanotechnology Institute; http://www.foresight.org/Conferences/MNT05/Papers/Gubrud/

    Collapse of capitalism causes extinction outweighs other extinction scenarios
    Jean-Francois Revel, 1993 Sociopolitical analyst
    Democracy Against Itself: The Future of the Democratic Impulse

    Capitalism reduces poverty and oppression-empirically proven

    Andrew Bernstein 03, author of the Capitalist Manifesto, December 2003, Volume 53, Issue 11, Global Capitalism: Curing Oppression and Poverty Capitalist Nations Are the Wealthiest in the World, http://www.thefreemanonline.org/features/global-capitalism-curing-oppression-and-poverty/ (Aug 2012)

    Posted at N/A by Jacob Landsberg

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    Marsh 95
    (James L., Professor of Philosophy at Fordham University, Critique, Action, and Liberation p. 271-272 GAL)

    Meszaros 95 (Istvan, Prof @ U of Sussex. Beyond Capital. P 725-727)

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    Herod 7 (James, Columbia U graduate and political activist, Getting Free Pg. 8-9 JF)

    All extensions are from Opp 1 Speech.

    Posted at N/A by Dhruv Sehgal

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    Rejecting capitalism will spark transition wars, re-entrenching cycles of exploitation
    Gubrud 1997 [Mark Avrum (Center for Superconductivity Research); Nanotechnology and International Security; Foresight Nanotechnology Institute; http://www.foresight.org/Conferences/MNT05/Papers/Gubrud/
    With molecular manufacturing, international trade in both raw materials and finished goods can be replaced by decentralized production for local consumption, using locally available materials. The decline of international trade will undermine a powerful source of common interest. Further, artificial intelligence will displace skilled as well as unskilled labor. A world system based on wage labor, transnational capitalism and global markets will necessarily give way. We imagine that a golden age is possible, but we don't know how to organize one. As global capitalism retreats, it will leave behind a world dominated by politics, and possibly feudal concentrations of wealth and power. Economic insecurity, and fears for the material and moral future of humankind may lead to the rise of demagogic and intemperate national leaders. With almost two hundred sovereign nations, each struggling to create a new economic and social order, perhaps the most predictable outcome is chaos: shifting alignments, displaced populations, power struggles, ethnic conflicts inflamed by demagogues, class conflicts, land disputes, etc. Small and underdeveloped nations will be more than ever dependent on the major powers for access to technology, and more than ever vulnerable to sophisticated forms of control or subversion, or to outright domination. Competition among the leading technological powers for the political loyalty of clients might imply reversion to some form of nationalistic imperialism.

    Collapse of capitalism causes extinction outweighs other extinction scenarios
    Jean-Francois Revel, 1993 Sociopolitical analyst
    Democracy Against Itself: The Future of the Democratic Impulse
    There have been natural cataclysms in history, epidemics, droughts, earthquakes, and cyclones, and they have killed millions, destroyed cities and crops, annihilated artistic and intellectual treasures, devastated the infrastructures of nations. Yet these plagues are nothing compared to those that have been caused by human action. The most destructive catastrophes are man-made, and above all statesman-made. They come from his appetite for conquest and domination, from the dead-end political systems he thinks up, his uncountable religious or ideological fanaticisms, and, especially, his obsessive need to reform societies instead of letting them change at their own pace. Democracy blocks, or at least slows down, this disastrous -and wicked-human propensity . Twentieth-century history is clear on two points: only capitalism engenders economic development; only democracy can correct the worst political abuses and errors . This is why humanity faces a stark choice: democratic capitalism or extinction . I would revise Michael Novak's term to read: democratic and liberal capitalism. For capitalism can be illiberal-protectionist and closely associated to the state. In this case, it is not as much of an obstacle to development and individual liberty as is socialism, but it hinders them and creates incentives for the corruption of political leaders. Liberal democratic capitalism is not the best system: it is the only one [that works] . The parrots who keep telling us about its imperfections are right, it is imperfect. But the only prohibitive vice for a system, is not for it to be without vices, but to be without qualities. And what we know about all the tested alternatives to liberal democratic capitalism is that they are without qualities . It deserves plenty of criticism, but these should not lead to the temptation of returning to collectivism or even milder forms of state control. Of course democratic capitalism has its share of sins; but as Robert Nozick put it, socialism does seem to be an excessively heavy punishment for them. And anyway it has been tried already.

    Capitalism reduces poverty and oppression-empirically proven

    Andrew Bernstein 03, author of the Capitalist Manifesto, December 2003, Volume 53, Issue 11, Global Capitalism: Curing Oppression and Poverty Capitalist Nations Are the Wealthiest in the World, http://www.thefreemanonline.org/features/global-capitalism-curing-oppression-and-poverty/ (Aug 2012)

    Although leftist agitators continue to protest global capitalism, they overlook the key points in the debate. Capitalism has been instituted on three continentsin western Europe, North America, and Asia. These nationsEngland, France, the United States, Japan, Hong Kong, and the othersare among the worlds wealthiest countries with per capita incomes in the range of at least $20,000$30,000 annually. Additionally, even the prosperity of a so-called socialist country like Sweden is based on significant elements of capitalism, including Volvo, Saab, and Ericsson, as well as countless private small shops. But capitalism is not merely the system of prosperity; fundamentally, it is the system of individual rights and freedom. The inalienable rights of individuals are largely protected in these countries. For example, their citizens enjoy freedom of speech, of the press, and of intellectual expression. They have freedom of religion. Similarly, they possess economic freedom, including the right to own propertytheir own home or farmto start their own businesses, and to seek profit. These countries hold free elections, and their governments are subject to the rule of law. By contrast, the noncapitalist nations of the world, past and present, lack both freedom and prosperity. For example, in feudal Europe, before the capitalist revolution of the late eighteenth century, serfdom and its legacy dominated. Peasants were often legally tied to the land and possessed few rights. Commoners, more broadly, were subordinated to the king, aristocrats, and Church, and free thought was punished. Voltaire, for example, was imprisoned for his revolutionary ideas, as was Diderot. Galileo was threatened with torture and Giordano Bruno burned at the stake for supporting scientific theories that clashed with the teachings of the Church. The minds and rights of individual citizens were thoroughly suppressed. What were the practical results of such repression? Poverty, famine, and disease were endemic during the feudal era. The bubonic plague wiped out virtually one third of Europes population during the fourteenth century, and recurred incessantly into the eighteenth. Famine killed sizable portions of the population in Scotland, Finland, and Irelandand caused misery and death even in such relatively prosperous countries as England and France. According to one economist, economic growth was nonexistent during the centuries 5001500and per capita income rose by merely 0.1 percent per year in the years 15001700. In 1500 the European per capita GDP was roughly $215; in 1700, roughly $265.1

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    Submitted at N/A by Susan Worst

    Category Dhruv Sehgal Jacob Landsberg
    Use of evidence: 5.3 5.1
    Delivery skill: 4.5 4.8
    Coherence of arguments: 4.5 4
    Responsiveness to opponent: 4.5 3
    Identification of key points: 4.9 4
    Comments: Well done. First speech was light on evidence/logic but you responded well and rose to the occasion after that. You're very clear, no trouble understanding you. Good clear spread. I don't generally vote for K's because I feel they're pretty one-size fits all a lot of the time. I didn't think affirming the resolution was any kind of unique factor in further entrenching capitalism, so I didn't pick it up.

    The decision is for the Proposition: Dhruv Sehgal

    Reason for Decision:

    While the K was reasonably well run, I vote proposition because he addressed both the issue at hand as well as answering the K. When opposition presents the K as the most important priority and then doesn't have evidence of what fills the vacuum, I'm inclined to look back to the resolution, where prop wins the ballot. For the record, I prefer a round somewhere between "Don't hurt the baby bunnies" and "Arise, comrades!" So while I didn't vote on the K, I guess I'm glad it was run, for my sake as well as the bunnies'. Close round, and I enjoyed judging.


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    Good round Dhruv, it was good debating you. - Jacob Landsberg on April 30, 2013 at 01:45AM EST

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